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Terry B's avatar

That report is not capturing the main issue…The 2024 election was stolen. Unless we admit it and figure out what the heck we have to do to reverse course we are stuck in this loop for many many years! Look they are not worried about midterms. They are trying to get a 2/3rd majority in congress to change the constitution so DJT can run again. Didn’t you hear him talking about him being in office in 2028 the other day? WAKE UP PEOPLE

Terry B's avatar

He doesn’t need Elon to bribe voters because Elon is using his satellites to change vote tabulations (along with Palentir) Elon didn’t bribe voters to vote, he never used one of the voters votes. He used it to make a fake voter data bank. There were fake counties. Read any of the articles by organizations that are sounding the alarm.

Tina's avatar

Musk want's to rule the world! I honestly believe that. Why do they want to spy on all of us? Why did “DOGE” get ALL our Sensensitive formation, about ALL of us? Why buying ALL the channels we watch on TV and streaming? Billionaire's Ellison and boy?

AAA's avatar

You are correct!! I am having trouble getting people to believe!!! Right now "WE" are destabilizing the world economy!!! ALL FOR (is) RAY/el!!!!! We have little chance of hearing real news!!!! Other countries are ramping up their weapons, BECAUSE THE USA IS A WORLD DANGER!!!!

Tina's avatar

I believe it and we all need to be uprising to stop this, instead of watching them do it! Unfucking real.... ???

AAA's avatar

RIGGED/STOLEN ELECTION!!!

https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/stolen-elections-an-open-letter-to

https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/she-won-michigan-used-a-fake-county

https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/she-won-over-2-million-votes-removed

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https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/trump-the-trojan-horse-for-authoritarian

"THEIR" PLAN FOR US TO DIE!!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!MENTAL HEALTH EMERGENCY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://bandyxlee.substack.com/p/america-is-disintegrating-because

https://bandyxlee.substack.com/p/mental-health-experts-warned-against

https://bandyxlee.substack.com/p/urgent-warning-to-congressional-leaders

?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Seriously, how much proof does anyone need?? A letter to Congress, and the Senate!!! Jamie Raskin KNOWS!!! Has ANYONE SEEN OR HEARD OF THIS??!!!! STATEMENT FOR OUR GOVERNMENT!!!!!

Statement of Presidential Medical Concerns to the U.S. Senate

AAA's avatar

RIGGED/STOLEN ELECTION!!!

https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/stolen-elections-an-open-letter-to

https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/she-won-michigan-used-a-fake-county

https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/she-won-over-2-million-votes-removed

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https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/trump-the-trojan-horse-for-authoritarian

"THEIR" PLAN FOR US TO DIE!!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!MENTAL HEALTH EMERGENCY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://bandyxlee.substack.com/p/america-is-disintegrating-because

https://bandyxlee.substack.com/p/mental-health-experts-warned-against

https://bandyxlee.substack.com/p/urgent-warning-to-congressional-leaders

?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Seriously, how much proof does anyone need?? A letter to Congress, and the Senate!!! Jamie Raskin KNOWS!!! Has ANYONE SEEN OR HEARD OF THIS??!!!! STATEMENT FOR OUR GOVERNMENT!!!!!

Statement of Presidential Medical Concerns to the U.S. Senate

Sharon Bouchard's avatar

Elon's precious satellites cannot change votes on machines that are never remotely connected to anything. Stop spreading this nonsense.

Terry B's avatar

You just let them keep stealing your money and your vote then! Just lay down and let them have it all. That is basically what you are conceding to if you don’t look at people who have proof and receipts to back it up. This administration counts on people like you.

Sharon Bouchard's avatar

I have looked at what they call evidence. You keep looking up when the problem is down. Bless your heart.

AAA's avatar

RIGGED/STOLEN ELECTION!!!

https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/stolen-elections-an-open-letter-to

https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/she-won-michigan-used-a-fake-county

https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/she-won-over-2-million-votes-removed

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https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/trump-the-trojan-horse-for-authoritarian

"THEIR" PLAN FOR US TO DIE!!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

*************************************************************

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!MENTAL HEALTH EMERGENCY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://bandyxlee.substack.com/p/america-is-disintegrating-because

https://bandyxlee.substack.com/p/mental-health-experts-warned-against

https://bandyxlee.substack.com/p/urgent-warning-to-congressional-leaders

?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Seriously, how much proof does anyone need?? A letter to Congress, and the Senate!!! Jamie Raskin KNOWS!!! Has ANYONE SEEN OR HEARD OF THIS??!!!! STATEMENT FOR OUR GOVERNMENT!!!!!

Statement of Presidential Medical Concerns to the U.S. Senate

Zia's avatar

Hey Elons girl said that he said “it was his satellite” giving him the info 4 hrs before - she said to him “what are you talking abt Elon” find article link and see for yourself.

Terry B's avatar

Okay… enjoy your time chasing your tail

Sharon Bouchard's avatar

Dealing with fools is exhausting. Good night.

AAA's avatar

RIGGED/STOLEN ELECTION!!!

https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/stolen-elections-an-open-letter-to

https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/she-won-michigan-used-a-fake-county

https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/she-won-over-2-million-votes-removed

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https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/trump-the-trojan-horse-for-authoritarian

"THEIR" PLAN FOR US TO DIE!!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

*************************************************************

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!MENTAL HEALTH EMERGENCY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://bandyxlee.substack.com/p/america-is-disintegrating-because

https://bandyxlee.substack.com/p/mental-health-experts-warned-against

https://bandyxlee.substack.com/p/urgent-warning-to-congressional-leaders

?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Seriously, how much proof does anyone need?? A letter to Congress, and the Senate!!! Jamie Raskin KNOWS!!! Has ANYONE SEEN OR HEARD OF THIS??!!!! STATEMENT FOR OUR GOVERNMENT!!!!!

Statement of Presidential Medical Concerns to the U.S. Senate

Linda Harris's avatar

This looks like a report the repugnicans would have come up with. It has scam and fraud written all over it i.e. paying an incompetent person and then lying about it. Those are things the right does all of the time.

MiddleChild's avatar

Agreed. I honestly believe that Trump will do everything he can to steal the midterms. Maybe get his BFF Elon to bribe voters again.

Donna Vest's avatar

I totally believe they will do that to….cheat on the midterms. Same way they cheated in 2024. It's going to take a whole lot of Americans getting pissed off enough to rise up and stop the takeover. Until then he will continue to chip away at our republic.

MiddleChild's avatar

This really, really scares me because of Trump's inexplicable hypnotic grip on so many people.

Sharon Bouchard's avatar

Bribing voters I can well believe. That already got Massie to lose his primary. He will certainly try many angles. Some may work and many will not. We need to be prepared - for things that are actually plausible.

Eff U. Trump's avatar

Absolutely correct. Here’s the real autopsy- Harris WON….and nobody, including Mockler ( who I respect) fails to say word one about the cause of the non-existent defeat. I guess he knows nothing about This Will Hold and Election Truth Alliance, or It's Up to Us. We have feckless cowards in our party. It happened again to Massie again the other day…fictitious votes, along with flipped votes. Boy that Elon. He sure knows those election counting machines.

Zia's avatar

OVER “WE THE PEOPLE’S“ dead bodies he will !!! NO!!! NOT HAPPENING!!! Make this insanity stop 🛑

Terry B's avatar

Don’t take our word for it… Take it from the mouth of a sociopath who just can’t help telling on himself:

https://substack.com/profile/1494365-debbie-madrid/note/c-257338199?r=3uk4in&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action

Donna Vest's avatar

Was that AI or did that dumbass really say that? Is he speaking about the future?

Terry B's avatar

Nope watched it when he said it live. That is not AI that was right after they won in 2024

AAA's avatar

RIGGED/STOLEN ELECTION!!!

https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/stolen-elections-an-open-letter-to

https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/she-won-michigan-used-a-fake-county

https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/she-won-over-2-million-votes-removed

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https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/trump-the-trojan-horse-for-authoritarian

"THEIR" PLAN FOR US TO DIE!!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

*************************************************************

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!MENTAL HEALTH EMERGENCY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://bandyxlee.substack.com/p/america-is-disintegrating-because

https://bandyxlee.substack.com/p/mental-health-experts-warned-against

https://bandyxlee.substack.com/p/urgent-warning-to-congressional-leaders

?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Seriously, how much proof does anyone need?? A letter to Congress, and the Senate!!! Jamie Raskin KNOWS!!! Has ANYONE SEEN OR HEARD OF THIS??!!!! STATEMENT FOR OUR GOVERNMENT!!!!!

Statement of Presidential Medical Concerns to the U.S. Senate

Jim McCarville's avatar

Well there may be a reason that this party is piss poor at messaging money is definitely part of the problem but the other part is the lack of proper leadership. As much as I Despise the Repub-turds they are very good at messaging and unfortunately for the Democratic Party they suck at it. I'm neither Democrat or Republican I register as an Independent. It's only been in the last decade I've completely voted Democratic. And it's quit obvious why, but I am a college graduate with a B.S. in business with a certificate in project management so I know how to do proper reasrch. Unfortunately the majority of voters today are not a college graduate whether Associates Or Batchelor and there are a few really good trade schools out there but there again it's not college which most colleges I know of especially today push the idea of collaboration, working together and how to take the reigns and lead. Most trade schools don't do this it is more focused on specialty at hand. I know because I have a journeymen cert in aeronautical welding, received that from the military and certified MIG, TIG, ARC, OXYACT. The reality is education is extremely important to be well rounded American and to be able to identify a fraudsters or grifters and not letting them manipulate you mindset. Hopefully the Democratic leadership gets it?

FeralAF's avatar

I agree. Elon is slithering around again

Tina's avatar

I took it this way too. And two word's flashed in my, Elon “muskie” Musk, because the Dots connect.

DEBRA's avatar

right… some of that other stuff mentioned was

made up in my opinion. I believe they dont want the truth about that to come out.

those counting machines are compromised, counting should be done manually!

Terry B's avatar

Yes! We must demand it!

Debra Jean Boren's avatar

Wake up people. Most people have no idea what is going on in our country, or the world. The people in France are so sorry about what rump has been doing to ruin America . The rest up the world does not like him at all. He's such a treasonous professional lier

DivineDiva's avatar

That's EXACTLY what they're trying to do. People HAVE to wake up and look at the BIG picture

AAA's avatar

Yes, THANK YOU!!!! Here is the evidence, try to get others to read/watch it!!!! It;s all right here on Substack!!!

RIGGED/STOLEN ELECTION!!!

https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/stolen-elections-an-open-letter-to

https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/she-won-michigan-used-a-fake-county

https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/she-won-over-2-million-votes-removed

*****************************************************************

https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/trump-the-trojan-horse-for-authoritarian

"THEIR" PLAN FOR US TO DIE!!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

*************************************************************

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!MENTAL HEALTH EMERGENCY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://bandyxlee.substack.com/p/america-is-disintegrating-because

https://bandyxlee.substack.com/p/mental-health-experts-warned-against

https://bandyxlee.substack.com/p/urgent-warning-to-congressional-leaders

?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Seriously, how much proof does anyone need?? A letter to Congress, and the Senate!!! Jamie Raskin KNOWS!!! Has ANYONE SEEN OR HEARD OF THIS??!!!! STATEMENT FOR OUR GOVERNMENT!!!!!

Statement of Presidential Medical Concerns to the U.S. Senate

Martha W Johnson's avatar

Why, if he’s lying to the press, does no on call him on it? “No, Sir. There were NOT 500K “corrupt mail in ballots.” He lies loudly and convinces the single sound bite Fox folks and Dems are left to try to break the lie after the fact.

Terry B's avatar

They stole the election. I can’t speak for why they are not calling him on it… I can only assume it is fear. Do you not remember the empty rallies DJT had vs Harris? It was so bad they created a fake assassination attempt. I remember people going out in droves to vote for Harris and Waltz. To date I personally know very few people that voted for DJT. But he won every swing state? Do you what the odds of that is? Do you really think that with AI technology it is not possible? Do you really think Musk, Thiel, and the rest of big tech are gathering our voter data because THEY are concerned with voter fraud? Or could it be that they are gathering this information to make fake voter banks?

https://substack.com/@debbiemadrid/note/c-257338199?r=3uk4in&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action

https://substack.com/@terryb777/note/c-261249608?r=3uk4in&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action

https://youtu.be/gyGF_zgNr6M

https://thecommoncoalition.com/report/

https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/she-won-michigan-used-a-fake-county?r=3uk4in&utm_medium=ios

Art Lightstone's avatar

Could I just ask what the f are you all talking about? Have you not looked at the election data? The biggest reason you lost is because the election was aggressively and unabashedly rigged. The odds of having down-ballot drop off rates that you see in North Carolina alone are 1 and 1.268 nonillion. Translation: those results are impossible to achieve in an unmanipulated election.

You Americans are high on your own supply. You go around saying that everyone else’s elections are rigged, but you think it could never happen with your own elections. The fact of the matter is the USA is the easiest country in the world to rig elections in because you vote by machines. All other advanced democracies in the world use hand-counted paper ballots. Now you know why.

Do you really think the Trump regime would shit all over working class Americans every single day if they had any fear at all of the ballot box? You can write as many reports and have as many meetings as you want. Until you take back your election system, you will never again see another Democratic government. Your country is now controlled by a single party. You are living under an autocratic regime. Welköme to Amērika!

Suzanne's avatar

I've got to say, eliminating the machines is the only way to eliminate the constant doubt of rigged elections. Now we have Elons baby momma coming out and insinuating his satellites were involved the election results. How can we doubt that for a moment knowing who he is and what he wants.

And voter suppression absolutely needs to be dealt with. Closed primaries, open primaries, semi open, semi closed. It's bullshit. And there are millions of us effected by this because we refuse to change our Independent status to red or blue. Fuck that. I have a right to vote for the right person no matter which party they stand for. But I live in a semi open state that tells me I can change my registration from Ind, to Dem or Rep, or I can unenroll and be an unregistered but must request a straight blue or red ballot. Talk about system manipulation. It's all broken.

As for Adam's policy perceptions for liberals, he is spot on and made more sense than that entire autopsy. I'm in my 60’s, and I'm sick of the democrats lazy approach. It's time for change.

Sharon Bouchard's avatar

Rubbish. Elon's baby mama doesn't know how those machines are used either. She is definitely trying to get some attention though. I agree the primary system is confusing and a mess. In my state the parties fund the primaries though, so they get to decide who plays. As a lifelong independent I'd like to see us rethink some parts, including primaries. I've been fortunate to only live in open primary states, and I don't have to declare anything. It's really no one's business if I belong to some party or not. That kind of data is easily used to gerrymandered and do other voter suppression.

Debora Boudreau's avatar

And how often has a candidate won the House, the Senate, and the Electoral College in the same election. And no one questioned it or demanded an investigation. Seriously. The Democrats need grow some balls and have to stop trying to play nice in the sandbox. Ain’t gonna win like that, no way no how

Art Lightstone's avatar

Exactly, my friend. It’s not enough to just run in an election and hope that it will be free, fair, and valid. You have to fight to make sure that it is. Americans haven’t done themselves any favors by turning their elections over to machines and then refusing to investigate mathematically impossible election outcomes.

Debora Boudreau's avatar

Amen to that! If they don’t get their shit together and win the midterms, which are so obviously theirs to win, then I don’t want to hear one word out of any of them.

Mary Kostanski 🌀💙🔥's avatar

Exactly!! And how many years has it been going on??

Art Lightstone's avatar

At least since 2016, but there is some evidence I’m seeing more recently. It has perhaps been going on for decades.

Terry B's avatar

Well said. You’ve nailed down the answer. The only possible chance of reversing this is mail in ballot… hence, why DJT wants to eliminate it.

Art Lightstone's avatar

Yup. When you look at the data, mail-in votes tend to look normal (in other words, the vote share per candidate does not change as the number of votes increases per precinct). However, on the election day votes, there is a very clear positive correlation where increased vote count favors Trump. That is a clear sign of ballot stuffing. It’s the exact same kind of thing that we see in Russian elections.

136247am's avatar

My research shows that Ballot Fraud plays a huge role in Trumps. “Victories”

Art Lightstone's avatar

Yup. Of that there is no doubt. It appears that egregious amounts of both ballot stuffing and ballot switching were employed in the 2024 election. These guys didn’t care at all about their efforts being detected.

Zia's avatar

THATS IT, im so tired of this putrid fuck! HES A RUSSIAN ASSET!!! Motherfucking rapist / murderer!

Art Lightstone's avatar

I agree with all those assessments, Zia.

DEBRA's avatar

thats a sign of manipulation.

Sharon Bouchard's avatar

Sorry but you've been listening to bullshit and bought it. I haven't, because I actually do this job, and tbh I'm sick to death of people ranting on about how the machines are rigged when they can barely use them as a voter. Go volunteer to work elections. Learn the process. Better you than MAGA, right?

Art Lightstone's avatar

Oh… my goodness… how embarrassing. Well then, I guess I’m wrong.

I guess these computer scientists are all wrong, too:

J. Alex Halderman, University of Michigan

Andrew Appel, Princeton University

Matt Blaze, Georgetown University

Hovav Shacham, UT Austin

Stephen Checkoway, Oberlin College

Dan Wallach, Rice University

Should I let them know, Sharon… or did you want to do that?

Sharon Bouchard's avatar

Not one of them have laid a hand on the machines, they don't know the procedures we use, and I'm a computer scientist myself.

No they lack the expertise in the precautions we take with the entire system to prevent rigging. They are busy navel gazing from an ivory tower whole I've done this for two decades. Now go away.

Art Lightstone's avatar

You have immediately revealed your ignorance, Sharon. They ALL lay their hands on, in, and all over these machines. They buy them, take them apart, and put them back together. They hack them regularly, they experiment with the fastest and most effective ways to hack them, and they demonstrate how to hack them to audiences of all descriptions.

Sadly, not only did you reveal your ignorance, Sharon, but you also gave yourself up. If you actually worked with these machines, you would not only know who these gentlemen were, but you would know what they do.

Here’s a little education for you… for the next time you try to pass yourself off as someone who works with these machines. 👇👇👇

https://www.c-span.org/clip/house-committee/user-clip-why-electronic-voting-machines-are-vulnerable-to-hacking/4623050

Zia's avatar

FUCK OFF CRINGE 😬 STONE! DUDE SNAP OUT OF IT, WITH YOUR PESSIMISTIC- DEBBI DOWNER SPEECH ! DEMS ARE CALLING THIS SHIzt OUT!!! And you should be supporting it too! WTAF 😳

Art Lightstone's avatar

Hey there, nameless, faceless Russian troll. This message is for you and your colleagues: Иди на хуй

Stephen Fox's avatar

So, the left has these folks as well!

Art Lightstone's avatar

Oh… you mean folks who understand math? Yeah… a few of them. You could start with the @electiontruthalliance, move onto @smartelections, and then check out @thiswillhold. Russia has taken over your government from within, and they did it using what they know best: kompromat and election rigging. More here. 👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼

https://greenneighbour.substack.com/p/he-didnt-win-heres-how-we-know?r=a1rkh&utm_medium=ios

Stephen Fox's avatar

Art - and if the Republicans lose the next one, they'll claim some theory like the one you are espousing, which is very ornate, but I only see you referencing one state, North Carolina. If that is the data set you are working from, then there are other possibilities for those results. First, Trump is a cult leader. That people who wouldn't normally vote Republican would vote just for him is entirely believable. Some of those folks are probably changing their minds right about now. I also think it is entirely believable that Kamala was less popular in that state than some local person, who might be white and running for AG would be. Of course, like the Subpreme Court says, we no longer have to consider race affecting voting outcomes in southern states, which those very states proved true the very next day!

Art Lightstone's avatar

That’s a fine theory, my friend. However, the phenomenon was the same across all swing states, as well as the state of Texas (which carries a great number of electoral college votes).

The reason why North Carolina is the state that I cite so often is because calculating the odds for that particular state just happens to be much easier than for the other ones because of the fact that every single one of the 100 counties in North Carolina gave Donald Trump a positive down-ballot difference, and every single county in North Carolina gave Kamala Harris a negative down-ballot difference.

I reference the graphs in this video I just posted today… 👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼

https://greenneighbour.substack.com/p/ashley-st-claire-implicates-elon?r=a1rkh&utm_medium=ios

And I explain the phenomenon in a far more detailed manner in this video here. 👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼

https://greenneighbour.substack.com/p/he-didnt-win-heres-how-we-know?r=a1rkh&utm_medium=ios

Jo blay's avatar

Trump didn't win the 24 election and we all know it. It was all rigged! Just like his first term!

Sharon Bouchard's avatar

Bullshit. I've run elections for twenty years and I know how things work. Every time one of you people make this claim you can't back it up with actual evidence. The few times any of you respond, it's to link me to another source of bullshit that has as much validity as antivaxxer propaganda.

The real problem is voter suppression, but go ahead and fall for the distraction. That's how we lose.

SUZANNE OBRIEN's avatar

There were bomb threats at several locations in the 2024 election….. That’s voter suppression absolutely, Which had an impact! But I heard the antichrist at least twice with my own ears thank Elon Musk for rigging the system to make him win. I don’t know if he did something with Starlink or what. Aside from that, he literally paid off people to vote for the antichrist, and he also paid people or at least promised to pay people because a lot of these guys ended up stiffed and stuck without plane fare back to their homes, After lying about a canvassing job that turned into strong-arming folks door-to-door to vote for the antichrist Trump. ‘in a "rigged" election. 🍊said it multiple times "I've got this guy (gestures to elon) & he knows more about those voting machines than anyone. He rigged it & I won." Thanks, 🍊 for your confession.

Sharon Bouchard's avatar

Oh hey, I see there are threats to send ICE and CPB to Fifa World Cup. That is totally a test to see how far they can get this fall. So far the merchants and staff are threatening a strike. Imagines pending all that money for a ticket at World Cup, and you can't even get a hot dog? This should be fun. And instructive for us, I think.

Sharon Bouchard's avatar

They both lie and confabulate. I can tell you that at least in two states its never possible for Starlink to get access to anything. Might as well claim Starlink flushed my toilet lol. But what Georgia and Michigan do are pretty common. Oh definitely there were bomb threats. I had friends working at two of those precincts. Any idiot can do it. And unfortunately we have to take it seriously. Also, Elon doesn't know shit about how we handle the machines, and unless he's brilliant at breaking and entering, he can't get at them undetected. Rofl he's not a genius. He just hires people. I know how the machines work. It's very simple. I still don't know how to get past the tamper proof seals and paperwork undetected. I'm also not good at lock picking to get into the facility. My guess is Elon doesn't know that part either. Hell, he doesn't even know what the paperwork is or where to find it. I do.. Elon and Trump are full of shit. Always remember that when they open their mouths. Check with someone who knows. Better yet, work elections if you can.

Elizabeth A Haines's avatar

What is your opinion of the idea of the voting machine conspiracy?

Sharon Bouchard's avatar

The first word of my post - bullshit. I know the ins and outs of these machines because I use them. I'd be more concerned about states having servers storing voter rolls that are not well secured. If I wanted to create mayhem on a large scale - that is what I'd be going after. If you flip a bit on a voter record to make them unable to vote, and you do it targeted enough so it isn't noticed until it's too late on Election Day, that's the ticket. But people who never built a basic server in their life and think Linux is a character in Peanuts imagine the machines we actually vote on are the problems. Lolwut. Check your registration often before the election, and certainly more than 30 days prior, in case you need to re-register. Make sure you have the papers you need. And start organizing in care you need a flash mob to protect people doing the counting. These are all probable things because they've actually happened before.

Barbara Moore's avatar

Without full access to election data and procedures nothing can be proven!

Smoky Mountains's avatar

Distraction???This Will Hold is proving the rigging. Not just voter suppression but Repubs winning in counties THAT DON’T EXIST. Voter banks that votes were dropped into and the majority of voter machines are owned by republicans?? STOLEN and it’s being proved.

Sharon Bouchard's avatar

The comment I referred to was a claim that Elon was switching votes using Starlink. It's a common bit of crap that makes the rounds and has for years. As for This Will Hold, they have a mixed record of accuracy. Speculation is not proof.

Mary jane's avatar

TWO WOMEN WERE CHEATED OUT OF THE PRESIDENCY! We still have rich white men running things! After voting since early 70s, its past time for women to get a shot!

dave's avatar

Oh how is that ? Do tell

Sher''s avatar

Whether we like it or not, bottom line is..if we don't vote Blue, we're doomed. Get your priorities straight now.

Terry B's avatar

You can only vote blue if you are doing a mail ballot otherwise your vote gets changed.

Sher''s avatar

In my state, VT. thus far, voting by mail is still a thing. I will do it for as long as I can.

Terry B's avatar

I’m so glad. In though states that still mail vote or paper ballot there needs to be groups of people campaigning for it. Our lives, our kids lives, and our grandchildren’s lives depend on it

Sher''s avatar

Indivisible is very strong and active here as well as other advocacy groups...I hope for the best..but these are very uncertain times. I take nothing for granted.

Chris Ingram's avatar

I could give a better analysis of that report and I haven’t even read it

Vickie's avatar

so its okay for him to use Mail in ballots but not us

Terry B's avatar

See how that works? He can vote mail ballot but we cannot. That says everything you need to know. Want to know the reason? Because in 2020 when DJT lost the election it was because we had unusually high mail ballot votes (due to COVID) which affected their 2020 election heist. That is why DJT is so angry about the 2020 election.

Sher''s avatar

Mailed ballots are more sevmcure unless boxes of them get hijacked...( that has happened before)...but I think it is somehow easier for the criminals to alter the computer data.

Aurelie Juliette's avatar

The problem if you ask me is voters want the Democrats to do do do the things they simply can’t since we’re in the minority.

This is the problem with shouting IMPEACH!! Yes he’s been impeached how many times already? We do not have the votes to remove Trump from Office.

If you want to see the changes you want to see We Need the Votes. Get us the House & the Senate. We already lost the Court & the Presidency. The Court will be a taller order.

Elizabeth's avatar

& stop being afraid of women leaders no matter what color they are!!

Gdgrf's avatar

Yep we need people to get of their butts and vote. And other people to stop voting against their own interests. Give the Dems in congress some power.

Sharon Bouchard's avatar

One thing I've seen for many decades, well before Trump, is that GOP voters turn out for every election, and Dem voters turn out for the Presidential and possibly the midterms. I'm noticing a shift, fortunately, but it nerds to stick. It's those "little" races where your vote means the most. And that's where you keep the kooks at bay.

Darla Fletcher's avatar

Repubs cheated! Elon among others hijacked voting machines!!! Omg!!

Kathey Hunt's avatar

He is admitting that he stole the 2024 election. That’s why he’s talking so much about election fraud. Projection. “They’ll (Democrats) never be elected again. “ He’s saying it out loud: if the save America act is passed, that is the consequence.

Terry B's avatar

Every accusation is an admission! They beat us to the punch so that by the time we call it out it is drowned out by them.

DianaBean's avatar

Part of moving forward is getting Ken Martin the hell out of there he's ineffective he's mild he's weak he does nothing! Also the Democrats need to find strategy for offense and they need to learn to message strongly and not strongly worded letters. They need to bring receipts they need to bring the truth out into the public in a big way but they haven't figured out how to do that they're messaging is weak it's always morality and high Road which doesn't work.

Terry B's avatar

Yes completely agree. They need an offensive strategy. What sucks the most is the Dems created a mail ballot campaign GOP would cry cheaters and we really need it to win. The machines are severely compromised

DianaBean's avatar

Yes and I don't see the Dems doing anything about it. A magat billionaire bought Dominion voting machines and you don't hear anything about it from the Democrat Democrats

Terry B's avatar

It’s up to us to save ourselves. We need to create a campaign to get hand count the 2024 election ballots. We just need good people with large following

DianaBean's avatar

I think we need to look forward rather than back, Lets forget the 2024 election. That's an uphill Bell and way too much time could be spent on going back and worrying about that we are where we are now and we need to move forward I'm not saying I don't believe that the machines were messed with because I do. But we are where we are and we need to get things going forward. Lets forget the machines and let's hand count the 2026 midterm ballots

DianaBean's avatar

Absolutely agree! The sad part is the Dems messaging is absolutely the shittiest. They are not effective in their messaging they aren't bold and loud and demanding which is what is called for at this time. Ken Martin is a waste of space. He is weak and ineffective, he needs to be replaced with someone from Gen Z or someone that has a set of balls (metaphorically speaking). We need loud messaging because there can be no question of whether it was infiltrated by Elon Musk... also, in my opinion, the Democrat party needs to be extremely loud and ever so present with repeated messaging about what propaganda is, what gaslighting is, and what is happening in our country. Watching some of these hearings take place in Congress is so frustrating because the Democrats often allow liars to overtake them and out talk them. I want more like AOC, I want more people who are willing to say "nope, that's a lie. I'm not letting you continue." "that's a lie and I'm not letting you continue". the same with journalists they need to start saying that's a lie and I'm not letting you continue with it. No more high road no more moral superiority. Loud aggressive and nonsense is what we need right now

Hmyvoicecounts's avatar

"We have a lot of corrupt..." (no end of the sentence) - The Thief in Chief (DJT) 👌🏼K.

Sheryl's avatar

Thank You Adam ? Expected 🔥👏👍👊😤 Love You ♥️🕊️

Kathleen Daniel's avatar

Why weren’t the swing states recounted by hand period no trust Elon stole this election

Terry B's avatar

Exactly. At the bare minimum.

Sharon Bouchard's avatar

No he didn't. Some of y'all just can't deal with the fact that masses of our fellow Americans have a very different approach to life and frame of reference.

Just checking's avatar

Perfect analogy for the DNC

Christine Beraldo's avatar

FRANKLY -- OK BAD REPORT -- LETS NOT BITCH AT EACH OTHER -- AS WE USUALLY DO -- OOOO LETS FIGHT INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON THE FTURE -- THIS IS DOING THE GOP'S JOB FOR THEM

Gail Wendorf's avatar

youre the first one who has actually spoken about the money problem. thank you.